Personal Expression to Success - with Lorene Hochstetler
Lorene Hochstetler is someone I've know since I was a wee little lad.
She is a healer, entrepreneur, and mother.
I am passionate to be a change-maker to better express the greatness that is already inside us. This passion expressed itself from the challenge of my own health and seeing this very same thing happen to many. Life is meant to be fun, full, and happy. Growing up on a rural farm in northern IN, with a very original lifestyle. So original, we even did horse and carriage! I am grateful I didn't remain in this ancient dimension, yet, I am incredibly grateful for the experience and the knowledge that remains to this day! Hard work pays off indeed!
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Hey guys and gals, welcome back to another Empowering Forum Momentum livestream. Today I have the pleasure of chatting with Lorene Hostetler, who is someone that I have
Speaker:known since, I don't know, I was probably about this big somewhere in there.
Speaker:And we were originally going to have this chat on Monday evening, but there were some technical issues and so we pushed it to today, but I'm super excited about it. I,
Speaker:always ask my guests to send me a little bio and Laureen says she's a healer, an entrepreneur, and a mother passionate to be a changemaker to better express the,
Speaker:greatness that is inside of us. This passion expressed itself from the challenge of my own health and seeing this very same thing happen to many. Life
Speaker:is meant to be fun, full, and happy. She grew up on a rural farm in northern Indiana with a very original lifestyle. So original that even had horse and carriage. You don't see that too often anymore.
Speaker:I'm grateful that I didn't remain in this dimension, yet I'm incredibly grateful for the experience and the knowledge that remains to this day. Hard work and days off. So with that, I want to say, Laureen, welcome to the show.
Speaker:Hey, thanks, Ken. Yeah. Now, when I try to think back on how long I've known you, I mean, you've been somebody that's been there ever since I have memories.
Speaker:I mean, I grew up with, I think Shane, your second son and I are about the same age, so we would have been pretty good pals up until y'all moved away from Jess at Georgia, which is where I grew up.
Speaker:About what time was that or what, I don't remember what year that would have been. Yeah, you were that little squirt. You were, I'm thinking four, four or five years old. So we lived there for six years.
Speaker:And I know I have a picture of you holding this cute little lamb. You were always so fascinated with animals. And I knew you're gonna be a farm kid. I think you still are, right? We do.
Speaker:My wife and I have a little farm here in Kentucky now. That's awesome.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah, I think the name of that lamb, we named it Butterball, if I remember right. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, you were so adorable with it I was like I could just you know, I already had my own kids But I was like I would just like to wrap you up and take you home.
Speaker:Well, hey, I would have had some brothers that way but I probably missed home Yeah So tell me a little about kind of.
Speaker:That time? What life's been like? How you became who you are today and got into the health and wellness industry?
Speaker:Yeah, for sure. So we moved back to Ohio. And it was actually 18 years ago, next week, I'm celebrating my anniversary, 18 years of doing health and wellness. Oh, wow. Yeah, I always tell
Speaker:people because people always ask, How do I know my sole mission? And I always say whatever keeps showing up in whatever you're drawn to. So I always knew that I was I was always looking and
Speaker:researching, you know, supplementation, what can we do to like eating healthier, you know, all those things. So I homeschooled our five kids at that point. And so then I wanted to help my husband
Speaker:bring in some finances as well, because we were limited. There was always so much money in the budget, you know, and I was like, you know, I would literally go to the grocery store can and with at that point, prices were still on the groceries and I knew how much money I had. So when the calculator,
Speaker:spit out the hundred dollars or whatever it was, I stopped, I stopped the grocery cart, turned around, went back up and paid and we walked out and my kids were like, we're not going to get this or this.
Speaker:And I'm like, you know, that is not really an entrepreneurial lifestyle. I knew we could do better. So I would pray as like, what is that creative thing I could do? still being a stay at home mom, because that's,
Speaker:something that a lot of people are not able to pull off these.
Speaker:Days. You see both mom and dad working in order to enjoy our lifestyles. So I have respect for older people, I feel like they have wisdom. And I would venture to say now, I'm there as well.
Speaker:And so anyway, an older gentleman told my husband, he said, if you guys want to get into something,
Speaker:that will be successful and you'll be a blessing to other people is to do something that has to do with health and wellness, maybe like a network marketing thing.
Speaker:And at that time I had a really bad vibe about network marketing and I'm like, that ain't a God thing whatsoever. So I just- One of them aren't.
Speaker:What was that? I said, so many of them are not a God thing. The way they approach them and the way they're designed, it seems like it's just a pyramid scheme often.
Speaker:It is. And they come and go as quickly as the wind. And that's what's unfortunate.
Speaker:So it does have a bad vibe. And so I was very cautious about it. But I did some homework and I did fall in love with a company that I could wrap my approval around. it.
Speaker:What have I got to lose? So can I actually when I the day I signed up to this day I have gotten a check every single week Wow good job Yeah, so I don't know if that's because of my hard work,
Speaker:Where is it because I let God be then I would say because I let God be the number one because I always said I will not sacrifice my children for this because I saw the the busyness and a lot of it,
Speaker:people go into the pressure of performance with you know chasing after trophies and,
Speaker:I think that's where you know, we crumble. So if you can approach this with I'm here to wash your feet if I can say it that way and.
Speaker:Serve you and you know, let it be in kindness and I would always when I would approach people is how can I serve you?
Speaker:What does this look like for you? And it's funny because even last week I I am still pursuing herbal remedies and all of that and I had reached out to a gentleman It just wanted I just had a simple question about his herb and he immediately want to do a sales to me and I'm like,
Speaker:I don't want to find anything. I just want to ask you.
Speaker:Yeah, I called him out on it I was like wait a minute here kiddo, you know I asked you how this works. I said I'm not gonna buy anything from you today. So set the foundation, right?
Speaker:So anyway, we have loved the sphere of influence that it has brought to us, because what has happened through me becoming a part of this health and wellness industry is it has opened,
Speaker:doors for me to do ministry where I am actually doing healing sessions pretty much on a daily.
Speaker:Basis where people come and so it's not only just a physical healing, it's because we're made body, soul, and spirit. Right? So then, you know, if you don't heal your past, you will not,
Speaker:redeem your present. So I have included a lot of shadow work in with this, and the severe friendships that we have made through this throughout the years is a treasure. Well, there's so much to
Speaker:unpack in that, but you mentioned something that I want to talk a little bit about. You said you you don't know if your success has come from your hard work or from allowing God to lead you.
Speaker:And I think both of those have to go together because the Bible, I'm not sure what the verse is, but it says the Lord directs your steps.
Speaker:And so often when you hear people talking about allowing God to do it, it's almost like they take a passive approach to it, like God's gonna bring it to me.
Speaker:But it says he'll direct your steps, which would give the picture that...
Speaker:But you have to walk it you have to do the work talk a little about that like what's been your experience in that? Yeah, for sure because I'm a big believer what you just said, you know, because I have seen people couch their fate
Speaker:Yeah And it's like God's gonna make it happen. You know what you you have to get up, you know,
Speaker:Your my kids are not gonna be fed unless I turn on the burner and cook it a couple of vegetables for them. So yes, it does require and it actually you often get triggered to,
Speaker:uncomfortable places, things that you thought you would never ever do. I love setting goals, I'm a believer in that, but I'm also very balanced where you don't worship that goal.
Speaker:But it is a good, like I just had my area manager text me on Monday and said, this is where your numbers are at. It was the best thing ever for me because I only have one place that I have to step,
Speaker:it up in order for me to rank advanced into the premier stage for this year. Am I going to do it?
Speaker:Of course. Yeah. So I love that. I love that there's that reminder, that encouragement to, you know, I just need to see numbers sometimes and I'll go for it. What does that look like? That.
Speaker:Means I'll pray about it, I'll meditate on it, and I think what comes into my soul, and then I'll chase after that. And again, it can be easy and effortlessly, but at the same time maybe uncomfortable, where it requires a phone call when I don't maybe always feel like doing it.
Speaker:How many times have things that we need to do, we absolutely do not feel like doing in moment. I face that far too often and I'm not always sure how to get around that other than just doing it. I think that you know too many people
Speaker:And myself so often too, I'm looking for motivation when motivation comes from actually just getting started. Seems like the motivation comes after the fact. After you go do the thing and you get it done, then you're like,
Speaker:yeah, that's motivating to get that stuff done. But to actually set out and do it, no, you don't feel motivated.
Speaker:Motivated, almost never. Yeah. You mentioned being childlike in business.
Speaker:What are some of the key points to that and what does that mean to you?
Speaker:Yeah, I'm glad you asked because I definitely wanted to hit that. And one thing I want to just really, just to wrap up on that other part yet is also to look at what I'm doing is going to be that I can be an answer to someone's prayer.
Speaker:For me, that has been kind of my motive, I think. I go out or when I pick up the phone to make that phone call when I don't feel like it is What if I could be an answer to someone's prayer?
Speaker:So that helps me to go past that uncomfortable place I want to comment too on that so often when we don't want to make the phone call,
Speaker:Just just for instance. I am a group for guys online right now kind of an online community to help guys find purpose and fulfillment.
Speaker:And to Reach the next level of personal professional development in life. And when it's something that I'm doing, I have a hard
Speaker:time putting it out there. So I set the goal for myself to invite at least five guys today to join the group. And the first one that I reached out to is an old friend and I'm like, do I send the text or I don't know if I should reach out or not? And he messaged back, he's like, dude, this is exactly what I'm,
Speaker:looking for. My wife and I were just talking about it. We're trying to find a community that we can connect to outside of where we're at. So yes, I'm interested. So so often we're like hesitant to reach out, but it's exactly what that person's looking for.
Speaker:It happens all day long, doesn't it? You know, and then it's just that confirmation, you know, and even if you don't get that confirmation, just know in your heart, you followed your heart,
Speaker:you did, because I cannot tell you how many times I've had that happen is you have no idea, you know, how much I needed that phone call or this invitation.
Speaker:And yeah, so. Mm-hmm. Todd, I interrupted you there. I think you were leading into what it means to stay childlike in business.
Speaker:Yeah, because there's that verse in Matthew.
Speaker:Three and four where it says unless you become as a child you're not going to enter into the kingdom of God I think that's a pretty strong call out so I love watching my grandkids I think I do better with my grandkids than I do with,
Speaker:my own children well my dad always said that if he would have known how much fun grandkids were he would have skipped the kids and just had grandkids exactly
Speaker:we'll figure it you guys can figure that out so but anyway what I look at kids is Look at how they pick up on vibrations of things that are happening.
Speaker:Look at their sensitivity. They're always asking questions.
Speaker:They're so inquisitive. And I think as adults, we let all of that stuff fly. And so I'm always encouraging my team to get back into that.
Speaker:Always be inquisitive. Always be intuitive to the vibrations that you're sensing. And be forgiving. Kids are so quick to forgive.
Speaker:And I tell you, we as adults, we hold on to grudges like no man's business, and it hurts our business. It sincerely does, because if we're not grateful and we're not forgiving, it affects all of our business.
Speaker:So that's something I see about kids. And so I just wanted to share if I can, I have a dear friend that I look to sometimes to explain the Bible to me.
Speaker:I'm a mirror study Bible person, because I like to love what I read and understand. So that verse actually means this, it says, unless one converts from religious pride,
Speaker:teachable as a little child he can't
Speaker:It's the kingdom that is always within us. And I love that because here again, it's telling us to be childlike.
Speaker:And to experience the kingdom that is already within us because when Christ is in us, he's within us.
Speaker:He's every heartbeat. And so what I find from that is always remain teachable.
Speaker:And I love that you're doing this Ken, because to me, you're very brave to do something like this. To me, I feel you have that teachable spirit.
Speaker:To me, I feel like you're one that, you know what?
Speaker:I'm learning, you're teaching, but you're learning at the same time. So as an entrepreneur, the minute we stop being teachable, we hurt.
Speaker:If you're not growing, you're dying is the way that I've often heard it. I like that.
Speaker:What are some of the priorities that have helped you to be successful in business?
Speaker:Like what are some of the key points that you've seen?
Speaker:Or how have you practically applied becoming childlike within your business and how that's led you to success? You know, lasting eight years in, or 18 years, I'm sorry, in that business.
Speaker:I would say the number one was to, because I was teachable, I allowed my sponsor, which I didn't always agree with him.
Speaker:If he happens to listen to me, he will like raise his hand with that's right. Because I always thought maybe I know more because I'm a mom.
Speaker:I would always before I would vent, I would sit with it for 24 hours.
Speaker:And then there was a better response from me. And I encourage my team to do the same. You know, I love looking for their spark and activate that spark in them. It might not always look like I think it should. But you know, I'm glad I was never limited with my spark that I had. Because,
Speaker:You know, we have a tendency as leaders. Here's the protocol,
Speaker:You sit in this box and you fill this protocol you're going to be successful and that damages them so badly Because I never let them be that expression of who they were designed and created to be because the blueprint god put it within us.
Speaker:Heck, we don't all look the same Be okay with that true. Yes Yeah, I think too often.
Speaker:As leaders, you know, whether you're whatever kind of leader we have an idea of what that success looks like and it's easy to get caught up like if you're
Speaker:leading an organization you know what success in the organization looks like but for each person to put them in a box can further the goals of the,
Speaker:organization can help that success but it's not always fulfilling who God created this person to be. It doesn't fulfill their God-given potential. And I
Speaker:think it can be okay to fit into that box to a certain point, but if we limit what God created us to be, it's like the parable of the wealthy ruler
Speaker:and the servants where he gave them 10,000 talents, 5,000 talents, a thousand talents or however much it was, and he said, take care of this. I'm going away,
Speaker:when I come back, I'll see how you've invested it. God gave us actual literal talents, skills, abilities, and if we don't put them to work, you know that we're called
Speaker:what God's given us. So I love how you brought that out. How has for yourself, how has the business development helped you as in your personal life as far as.
Speaker:Bringing out your own skills, your own talents, your personality, what God has made you to be?
Speaker:How have those two tied together for you?
Speaker:Well, you know, I um, I always tell people everybody should try this everybody should become a business owner because it really Shows your true colors and you find out all of your strengths,
Speaker:You actually didn't know you had because we have a tendency to go negative I don't know why it is that way, you know something i'm going to do a little bit homework right now is,
Speaker:You know the power of our soul, you know, because i'm always you know, i'd love to learn And because I noticed that throughout the tapestry of our business, you know people if we do.
Speaker:Talks will be bit So you eat because they're limited because we never gave them that permission to here's what the protocol is now You are invited to how does that look for you and help for me personally?
Speaker:You know when I first joined us like don't ever make me speak in public Okay Well, I think I have to yeah So when you become good at this stuff and you know, it's not meant for everybody,
Speaker:But until you try it you don't know and you know in my shoes, you know I'm not gonna ask you to wear my shoes, but I'm gonna let you experience my shoes and.
Speaker:See how that feels and you may you may not like it. But if you don't give them that invitation they'll never know the greatness that is.
Speaker:Of them. So I think entrepreneurship is huge and it's very inviting.
Speaker:I'm in the same boat. Everybody needs to have either a business or a side hustle or something to... I don't know. Like you said, it changes you and it makes you a better person. It makes you.
Speaker:More of who...what's the best way to put this? I always say that, you know, if we are somebody who follows after God, personal development makes you more...anything
Speaker:that you get more of, like more money, more whatever those things are, make you more of who God created you to be if you're following after Him. If you're a rotten,
Speaker:in person, all those things that get added to you just magnify that. So as we're growing and developing.
Speaker:You know, those things, they just make you more of, if you're following God, make you a better leader, a better family person, help your personality out, all of those things. I don't know, I kind of went
Speaker:off the rails there. I don't even know if that made any sense. It does, it does. Because, you know, we We still often focus on what I'm not good at.
Speaker:And so in order to really get good at these things, I always say a good leader is one that coaches you to become that expression of who you are.
Speaker:Surrender into that.
Speaker:And then it does make you feel good. Not that you have to have trophies. I never chased after them, but it shifted something in me.
Speaker:I was gonna ask you, I was gonna ask you, mentioned leaders and earlier you mentioned sponsors, which is how do you go about or do you have any tips for how to find somebody that can mentor you to, you know, in an area that you want to grow in?
Speaker:Yeah, I like that question, because, you know, I was actually just processing that this morning is, it is not always finding a coach that you may feel has a lot of credentials, as it is one that you have a oneness and a connection with.
Speaker:Because I would sometimes when I first started is I would look at their credentials, you know Do they qualify to coach me but I didn't chide with them. I think that's the right word,
Speaker:We didn't connect it wasn't in sync So then I I went after someone that I didn't care for someone that didn't feel like it You know, their ABCs weren't like mine.
Speaker:And I learned more from that coach.
Speaker:That I always tell people is get uncomfortable with even hiring your coach. I'm a big believer in hiring coaches by the way. Yeah. Same here. You mentioned assignments in one of the talking points there.
Speaker:What do you mean by assignments and how can you stay engaged in our assignments that we're given? Is that like assignments from in our business or from God?
Speaker:I would say more from God because we are all called. We all have a calling, we all have a destiny for a purpose.
Speaker:We're not here just to pass by. I always think we should make an impact and an imprint.
Speaker:What is that assignment? It may not all look the same, but at the end of the day, we are invited to do the, what was I going to say?
Speaker:Where it says, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, the golden rule. Yes.
Speaker:And so that imprint, that assignment is gonna be obviously a destiny goal that all of us have for each one of us.
Speaker:And then be that expression of how that will turn out for us.
Speaker:Now, as far as an assignment in your own personal business, in order for you to be successful and to prosper, you do have to have assignments, right?
Speaker:You know, what are those? You know, how am I going to be better this year than I was last year?
Speaker:How am I going to, you know, invite my team to be better this year than they were last year? You know, so it's an all-inclusive package.
Speaker:Okay, I'll- Yeah, that does. That's, in all different areas of our lives, we do have different assignments that we have to fill. And sometimes if.
Speaker:Over extending ourselves into too many different areas, those assignments can become overwhelming.
Speaker:And the last couple of years, I've liked I've done a word of the year to kind of give myself a direction for the year.
Speaker:And this year, my words eliminate because I've been pulled in too many different directions. And so it's like eliminate all the distractions so that I can focus on that specific assignment.
Speaker:You also mentioned Loving others and loving loving yourself. How do those tie in together in like?
Speaker:Can you truly love other people if you struggle to love yourself?
Speaker:Talk to that a little bit. No, you can't Okay, and I think that's that's been a mis-concept in religion that I feel is everybody's kind of waking up to that right now
Speaker:Is we got so busy on loving others and and we made a big flop with it because we were too concerned about how I'm impressing the other person thinking we're loving them when we never loved ourselves.
Speaker:You know, so now I feel like it's time that we're waking up with, hey, let's read that verse for what it says, because I can only love you to the degree that I love myself.
Speaker:And so that's why there has been hurt and trauma happening to the degree that it has is because people were broken, people are hurting, people are wounded.
Speaker:And so out of that, you know, I'm trying to be sweet to you. And it was like spoiled rotten apples.
Speaker:And you know, when you when you're hurting, and you're in that basket, you absolutely are going to affect the remainder of the basket. So let's stop and do what you just said. eliminate a lot of this busyness and,
Speaker:around with our heads chopped off because you know what? Let's stop impressing each other. I will look at your Facebook post and you can show me all the celery juice you want.
Speaker:But if I find you going through McDonald's, that tells me everything.
Speaker:And I'm probably talking to myself when I do that. So yesterday I had a post about celery juice. I ate a Taco Bell last night.
Speaker:That's not a good thing. Yeah, health and wellness space and Taco Bell, they don't mix so well.
Speaker:They don't, and I've had to pay for it, but we were driving and we were both hungry and there's a Taco Bell, and we haven't had Taco Bell in years and we both were like, what are we doing here?
Speaker:But I'm also an authentic person, as I shared with you, I will be the real deal because I have seen too many with the makeup on and underneath I'm like, that's really who you are. So you're gonna get me for who I am.
Speaker:Yeah. I just got a message here. I've lost my Taco Bell sponsorship, but oh well. Oh. Yeah.
Speaker:What kind of changes do you see coming in the future? You mentioned like extreme changes. What are you hinting at there? What do you see coming down the pipe?
Speaker:What I love what I'm seeing is how people are waking up and they're becoming their true authentic selves. They're stopping to breathe.
Speaker:They're pausing.
Speaker:They're focusing. They're reconnecting to their true authenticity of who they have always been. They just didn't know it. And I love it. I'm so excited for what I see that's happening right now. I look at people your age.
Speaker:Are you the Gen Yers? Gen X? Gen X, I think? No, Gen, I'm not sure.
Speaker:I'm a millennial, actually. Whatever that is, yeah. the older millennials. Yeah, okay. Don't hold it against me.
Speaker:I am not, I'm the baby boomer. So we love watching what we're seeing.
Speaker:It's almost like people are waking up and it's like, oh my goodness, there's so much life in front of us. You know, yes, there's new messages, but we don't even focus on that. To me, I always look at the gyms and I'm impressed.
Speaker:I'm impressed with your generation because you guys are healthier. you're making wiser decisions, you're not chasing after death. I think we're all set up with the woohoo.
Speaker:And and like I said, I'm gonna go back to that word pause. I just heard it. So I'm just gonna share it There's a pause and it's a healthy pause.
Speaker:Yeah, I love it. That's great I do have a question and I don't want to stir up any controversy here But I think being both of us kind of in the same personal development space coaching some of that,
Speaker:So often people approach it you talk about being your authentic self and some of that.
Speaker:It seems like it so often comes from it sounds good but there it leaves God out of it so often how can how can we approach that how can we talk about that,
Speaker:talk about being authentic but keeping Christ at the center of that because it I don't know, it seems like too often it goes off the rails and it feels right, but often God's not in it.
Speaker:How do you go about keeping Christ at the center of that, of being your authentic self, but reflecting Christ so that He is what the world sees in you? Yeah, I get it.
Speaker:I've watched that. I know exactly what you're talking about. And I know what's happening is people are still hurting when they're doing that. So we're going to give them that space to heal that woundedness.
Speaker:You know, they may have been hurt through religion, they may have been hurt through mommy and daddy's upbringing.
Speaker:So they want to kind of just execute or dismiss God in itself. But if we can just remember that my every breath that I take would not happen if I don't have the God within me. He's my breath.
Speaker:He's my light. So right now we're invited to be kind to those people because they have been shamed, they've been, you know, not handled gently as, and that's why they're, that's why they're doing.
Speaker:It's going to even itself out without too much disturbance. So in the meantime, I love on those people. Yep, that's all we can do is often just reflect God's love to them. That's the only thing to do.
Speaker:Your life vows speak louder than any word you will ever say.
Speaker:Mm-hmm. Yep, that is so true. What's the number one place or resource or thing that you go to when you're feeling disconnected or.
Speaker:You just don't feel like doing what needs to be done when you're feeling out of sorts?
Speaker:And that varies for everyone. For me, it's literally drinking water. I feel like water holds memory. So when I drink my water, it puts me back in focus again, or nature. You know, I I'm, I feel there's something God is in nature. God is in everything, you know, as far as that.
Speaker:But I will say, you know, surround yourself with people, surround yourself with someone that you have, if you have that stuck moment that you can reach out like last night, I had a stuck moment.
Speaker:And I paused and I talk about thing. You know, it was after the talk.
Speaker:It was after a long day of everything and I don't know why I just had a Moment, you know and I reached out to my girlfriend. I said do you have just five seconds? She gave me two words I got it. I got back off the phone, but I shifted.
Speaker:So You can you can get that from another human being but you don't you don't want to always depend on that either, you know, like.
Speaker:That can become a band-aid because source within you which is Christ is your breath is your life is your hope go there But sometimes I want to get on him Yep Where can people reach out to connect with you and?
Speaker:And find find your work and reach out to you if they are interested in what you have to offer Yeah, I'm on Facebook. I think it's just my name, but I also have a website. It's empowered health now org and.
Speaker:There that's my two go-to places right now Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining me. It's been a fun conversation.
